{"id":4921,"date":"2020-07-16T20:00:47","date_gmt":"2020-07-16T20:00:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/?p=4921"},"modified":"2022-01-04T19:43:21","modified_gmt":"2022-01-04T19:43:21","slug":"trial-and-error","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/blog\/trial-and-error\/","title":{"rendered":"Trial and Error","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>For Vivian Bucay, MD, a dermatologist diagnosed with advanced melanoma, the road to remission was anything but a straight path. She got there by acting quickly and taking advantage of every tool available at the time.<\/h4>\n<p><em>By Lorraine Glennon (w<\/em><em>ith additional reporting by Mark Teich)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just thought it was some sort of irritation,\u201d says Vivian Bucay, MD, of the whitish residue that, back in 2006, she occasionally noticed inside her belly button or on dark clothing. She was tempted to shrug it off. Aside from the slight flakiness, she had no symptoms or visible marks or lumps on her skin. But as a dermatologist with a thriving San Antonio practice, Dr. Bucay, then 45 and the mother of three daughters, had been trained to check out anything even slightly \u201cfunky.\u201d So more out of \u201cacademic curiosity than anything else,\u201d she asked her physician\u2019s assistant to help with a routine shave biopsy of the area.<\/p>\n<p>The pathologist who looked at the tissue called her on May 10, 2006 to say the biopsy revealed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/blog\/amelanotic-melanoma-it-doesnt-look-like-other-melanomas\/\">amelanotic melanoma<\/a>, an uncommon type of dangerous skin cancer that lacks the characteristic dark color of most melanomas. When she asked the pathologist which patient he was calling about, Dr. Bucay was shocked to learn that <em>she<\/em> was the patient. She wondered whether the partial biopsy had produced a false positive. But further testing confirmed the diagnosis: While not metastatic, her tumor (invisible because it was so deeply embedded in her belly button) was not only unpigmented, but also large (3.3 mm) and ulcerated, putting it at high risk for spreading.<\/p>\n<p>Her surgeon removed the tumor and a wide margin of tissue and performed a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/skin-cancer-information\/melanoma\/the-stages-of-melanoma\/slnb\/\">sentinel lymph node biopsy<\/a> (SLNB). This is done on the first lymph node or nodes to which a cancer will spread. If they are free of cancer cells, generally the rest of the lymph nodes are, too, and surgery ends there. Unfortunately, Dr. Bucay\u2019s SLNB showed melanoma, and she was classified as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/skin-cancer-information\/melanoma\/the-stages-of-melanoma\/\">stage III<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>She now faced an agonizing choice of undergoing a complete lymph node dissection, or CLND (also called radical dissection), in which the remaining lymph nodes in her groin would be removed in order to eliminate any cancer in the area and to keep it from spreading. This surgery is somewhat disfiguring and disabling, since it removes a large swath of skin and tissue along with the lymph nodes. It can also lead to complications such as lymphedema, a condition characterized by excessive fluid buildup and swelling. But there was an even more fundamental problem with CLND: There is no definitive proof that it works. For one thing, by the time the procedure is done, microscopic melanoma cells might have already invisibly spread, only to become detectable later.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Bucay\u2019s other option was simply to \u201cwait and see\u201d if any of the remaining nodes became palpably cancerous. By both temperament and training, however, Dr. Bucay was not a \u201cwait-and-see\u201d person. Just 20 days after her initial diagnosis, she underwent a radical dissection of the groin. \u201cI needed to know if more than one lymph node was involved,\u201d she explains. \u201cAnd I felt the more cancer you can get rid of, the better.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Throughout her ordeal, she enlisted the advice and support of friends, family and colleagues, not least her cardiologist husband, Moises Bucay, MD. But perhaps the most eloquent argument in favor of an aggressive approach to managing her cancer came from the oncologist to whom she had now entrusted her case, Ronald Drengler, MD, of San Antonio\u2019s START Center for Cancer Care. Dr. Drengler had already recommended the immunotherapy interferon alfa-2b, then the only approved treatment for stage II and III melanoma patients, as an \u201cadjuvant,\u201d or additional, therapy to her radical dissection. But the ante was upped when two of the 28 lymph nodes removed in the surgery were found to be cancerous.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI remember walking down to sublevel two of the hospital to view her slides after the radical dissection,\u201d Dr. Drengler says. \u201cWhen I saw the way her melanoma was growing and spreading, despite what should have been the fortress of her natural immune defenses, I got chills up and down my spine. This melanoma was a really bad actor.\u201d Interferon alone, he realized, would not suffice; they would need to seek out additional options.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAs Dr. Drengler was explaining all this, I asked him, \u2018Are you afraid I\u2019m going to die?\u2019\u201d Dr. Bucay remembers. \u201cAnd he looked me in the eye and said, \u2018Yes, I\u2019m afraid you\u2019re going to die.\u2019 I think until then I hadn\u2019t fully grasped how serious it was. I told myself, \u2018This is <em>not <\/em>how you are going to die!\u2019\u201d For years, Dr. Bucay had been preaching nonstop to her patients about staying out of the sun and wearing sun protection \u2014 and practicing what she preached. \u201cI still do,\u201d she says. \u201cIt\u2019s so important, but here I was with melanoma in a place that was totally <em>not <\/em>exposed to sunlight. The irony was just too much.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><strong>A Promising Therapy Goes on Trial<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>With an official designation of stage IIIB cancer, Dr. Bucay\u2019s chances of survival over 10 years were roughly 40 percent. She spent the six-week recovery period during the summer of 2006 after her radical dissection exploring treatment options around the country. As a nationally known dermatologist herself and part of a high-profile medical couple, she admits she had some advantages rarely available to her own patients. These included plentiful connections across the medical community, rapid access to doctors and scientists and speedy test results. On the other hand, unlike ordinary patients, she understood too much to comfort herself with false optimism: \u201cAs a dermatologist, I knew the prognosticators, and I had all the bad ones. So I worried constantly about my daughters.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cDuring the dark times,\u201d Dr. Bucay recalls, \u201cI promised my husband I wouldn\u2019t die. And I promised myself that I would dance at my daughters\u2019 weddings.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The experts she consulted recommended that she start with interferon alfa-2b but enroll in any clinical trial she qualified for. There were none. But Patrick Hwu, MD, then chair of melanoma medical oncology at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center, mentioned that <a href=\"https:\/\/provider.skincancer.org\/the-melanoma-letter\/2019-vol-37-no-2\/dr-weber\/\">Jeffrey S. Weber, MD<\/a>, an oncologist at the USC Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center in Los Angeles, would soon launch a trial of an exciting new drug for high-risk melanoma.<\/p>\n<p>That drug, developed by immunologist <a href=\"https:\/\/provider.skincancer.org\/the-melanoma-letter\/2019-vol-37-no-2\/dr-allison\/\">James P. Allison, PhD<\/a>, then at University of California, Berkeley (who, along with Japanese immunologist Tasuku Honjo, MD, PhD, won the 2018 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for this breakthrough work), was called ipilimumab. It heralded an entirely new class of treatments called checkpoint blockade therapies, so named because they block certain proteins that keep the immune system in check. These checkpoints rein in the disease-fighting T cells to keep them from attacking the body itself when there is no disease to go after. Because melanoma and other cancer cells can often evade immune detection, T cells won\u2019t attack them. By blocking one of these immune checkpoints, ipilimumab releases the brakes on the immune system, unleashing battalions of T cells to fight the cancer.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Bucay signed up to enroll, but she was unwilling to delay treatment while she awaited notification of when and if the trial would start. So she began the interferon therapy, which consisted of four weeks of daily high-dose intravenous treatment, followed by 11 months of home injections. She had completed the IV treatment and was two months into the home injections when she got word that the ipilimumab trial was launching.<\/p>\n<p>She immediately stopped the injections and in October 2006 began commuting back and forth from Texas to Los Angeles every two weeks for the clinical trial of the checkpoint blockade therapy. Contrary to her expectations, she felt great and had no symptoms except for a rash she developed all over her body. Dr. Weber called it a \u201cgood rash,\u201d she explains, because it was associated with a positive response to the treatment. \u201cI worked normal hours and was busy planning my daughter&#8217;s bat mitzvah.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3><strong><br \/>\nAgainst All Odds<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>In early January 2007, having completed her second dose of ipilimumab (out of seven total), Dr. Bucay celebrated her mother-in-law\u2019s 70th birthday. She was feeling fine and justifiably optimistic, looking forward to the bat mitzvah in a couple of weeks. Taking advantage of a rare snow day in her practice, she decided to get some scans done that the trial required. She recalls: \u201cLiterally 15 minutes later, the doctor phoned and said, \u2018Hi, how are you feeling?\u2019 And I said, \u2018Really good.\u2019 She asked, \u2018Any cough?\u2019 <em>No<\/em>. \u2018Any fever?\u2019 <em>No<\/em>. \u2018Any shortness of breath? Weight loss?\u2019 I said, \u2018No, I\u2019m still the only cancer patient who doesn\u2019t lose weight.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Bucay remembers the doctor laughed, paused and then said, \u201cWell, you\u2019ve got bilateral metastases all over your lungs. They look like snow globes.\u201d For Dr. Bucay, the moment was pure de\u0301ja\u0300 vu: \u201cThat was the second time, after the day of my original diagnosis, that I felt all the blood just drain out of me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The news was doubly devastating because it also meant she had \u201cfailed\u201d the trial and would be disenrolled. And yet she was convinced the ipilimumab was working. She immediately went to Los Angeles to confer with Dr. Weber. \u201cIn my pseudo-knowledge, I started rationalizing,\u201d she says. \u201cHow can we be sure these are metastases? The rashes are side effects, so maybe they\u2019re in my lungs and that\u2019s why the scans lit up.\u201d She all but begged Dr. Weber to ignore the scans and let her continue the therapy, but he and Dr. Drengler insisted on a biopsy. Keeping the procedure secret from everyone but her husband, Dr. Bucay had the biopsy two days after the bat mitzvah. \u201cWhen I woke up, my husband told me it was, in fact, melanoma.\u201d The metastasis reclassified her cancer as stage IV. According to FDA rules, she was no longer eligible for the clinical trial.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Bucay\u2019s chances of 10-year survival were now about 3 percent. But she couldn\u2019t give in to despair. \u201cDuring the dark times, I promised my husband I wouldn\u2019t die,\u201d she says with a catch in her throat. \u201cAnd I promised myself that I would dance at my daughters\u2019 weddings.\u201d Once again, she plunged into discussions with Dr. Drengler, and this time he and her husband urged her to visit Steven A. Rosenberg, MD, chief of surgery at the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Maryland. On February 27, 2007, Dr. Bucay was on her way to Bethesda.<\/p>\n<div style=\"background-color: #1b7ea1; padding: 1% 2%; margin-bottom: 26px;\">\n<h4 style=\"color: white; text-align: center;\">For more information about many of the medications and procedures involved in Dr. Bucay&#8217;s medical journey, visit our <strong><a style=\"color: white;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/treatment-resources\/treatment-glossary\/\">Treatment Glossary<\/a><\/strong>.<\/h4>\n<\/div>\n<p>She and Dr. Rosenberg settled on two treatment options: Interleukin-2 (IL-2) immunotherapy, then the only FDA-approved treatment for stage IV melanoma, followed by another clinical trial, of a revolutionary immunotherapy technique called autologous T-cell transfer therapy. In this still-experimental procedure, T cells are extracted from the patient, genetically strengthened and cultured in the lab, and returned in massive amounts to the patient. Enrollment in the trial could happen only after a patient had failed the IL-2 therapy, but given IL-2\u2019s low success rate \u2014 only 6 percent of patients using it go into remission \u2014 none of the doctors, including Dr. Bucay, held high hopes for it. So they made the necessary plans for the clinical trial.<\/p>\n<p>Interleukin-2, delivered intravenously over a five- to six-day period, can have very toxic effects, so it was administered under close supervision in an intensive care unit at Methodist Hospital in San Antonio. For her first course, which produced debilitating chills, flulike symptoms and massive fluid retention, Dr. Bucay did two one-week cycles, spaced a week apart, in March 2007, and then waited one month before going for scans and assessment by a radiologist.<\/p>\n<p>The April scan brought good news at last: Her lung nodules had shrunk by 60 percent. Though only a partial response, this was more than enough to warrant a second, equally grueling course of IL-2, followed by another monthlong waiting game. \u201cDuring this time, there was not a day that I did not pray for membership in the \u20186 percent club\u2019 of complete responders,\u201d Dr. Bucay says.<\/p>\n<p>Almost immediately after her CT scan on August 1, 2007, the doctor led Dr. Bucay, her husband and her best friend, Elizabeth Leyendecker (now her office manager), into the radiology reading room and showed them the scan. The nodules in her lungs had completely disappeared. Not a trace of cancer remained in her body. \u201cI can barely even describe how I felt,\u201d Dr. Bucay recalls. \u201cIt was utter ecstasy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As a newly inducted member of the \u201c6 percent club,\u201d she never had to enter that second clinical trial. At press time in May 2020, it has been 14 years and counting since her diagnosis. \u201cI\u2019m still counting,\u201d she says. \u201cAnd I did dance at my oldest daughter\u2019s wedding in 2017, and was the first to hold my grandson immediately after his birth in 2018.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4926\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4926\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4926\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/Drs-Bucay-dancing-600x429.jpg\" alt=\"Drs Bucay dancing\" width=\"600\" height=\"429\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/Drs-Bucay-dancing-600x429.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/Drs-Bucay-dancing.jpg 720w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-4926\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>A Promise Kept:<\/strong> Drs. Vivian and Moises Bucay dance at their daughter&#8217;s 2017 wedding.<\/p><\/div>\n<h3><strong><br \/>\nAnatomy of a Miracle<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>It would be easy to conclude that IL-2 worked when nothing else did. And that is certainly possible. \u201cA small percentage of patients do have complete responses to IL-2,\u201d says Dr. Weber, now deputy director of NYU Langone\u2019s Laura and Isaac Perlmutter Cancer Center in New York City.<\/p>\n<p>But Dr. Bucay and Dr. Drengler believe that IL-2 was merely a final, albeit vital, part of a treatment \u201ccocktail,\u201d a multipronged effort that over 13 continuous months kept adding to Dr. Bucay\u2019s immune response and chipping away at the cancer until it was defeated. Even so, they single out ipilimumab as <em>the<\/em> most crucial factor in her durable remission.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI always thought the drug was working,\u201d she says. She also theorizes that the disease didn\u2019t necessarily advance while she was on ipilimumab but rather was <em>exposed <\/em>by it. By kick-starting an immune system that had been sleeping, she explains, the drug essentially drew those invisible cancer cells out of hiding so that her T cells could attack them.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, this is how checkpoint blockade therapies are now known to work. (Ipilimumab, nivolumab, pembrolizumab and combinations are now FDA-approved or being studied as treatments for unresectable and metastatic melanoma and as therapies supplemental to surgery.) Dr. Bucay was treated so early in the development of these therapies, however, that researchers had not yet discovered that they can take a while to kick in but then continue to strengthen patients\u2019 immune systems even after the therapy has ended.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019ve learned that there can be late responders to ipilimumab,\u201d says Dr. Drengler. \u201cWe\u2019ll never know exactly how important it was to Vivian\u2019s outcome, because we switched to interleukin after the positive lung biopsy. But ipilimumab was still in her system, and it unquestionably gave the interleukin a boost.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps most significant for the future of cancer treatment is the fact that all of these therapies, just like interferon alfa-2B, interleukin-2 and many other drugs before them, originated in clinical trials \u2014 including the one that Vivian Bucay \u201cfailed\u201d back in 2006. Who would have guessed then that a drug that ostensibly didn\u2019t work would be instrumental in saving her life?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"border: 7px solid #176987; padding: 3%; color: #176987;\">\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>In Praise of Clinical Trials<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Although they may never know for sure, Vivian Bucay, MD, and her primary oncologist, Ronald Drengler, MD, believe that her participation in a clinical trial for ipilimumab in 2006 and 2007, abbreviated as it was, was an essential part of her \u201cdurable remission\u201d from stage IV melanoma.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Bucay is a fervent supporter of clinical trials. \u201cI tell my patients that even if something is new and untested, there wouldn\u2019t be a study unless there was some research indicating it has promise. If you have advanced cancer and there\u2019s something to try, go for it. The worst that can happen is it doesn\u2019t work. What\u2019s far worse is if something that might have helped doesn\u2019t because you didn\u2019t try.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Whether a patient has advanced cancer, a nonterminal condition or isn\u2019t yet sick (many trials test preventive treatments), Dr. Bucay applauds all trial participants for the scientific and medical progress they advance. \u201cRegardless of what a trial does for you, it does something for future generations. It may even save their lives.\u201d To search for U.S. trials, visit <a href=\"https:\/\/clinicaltrials.gov\/\">clinicaltrials.gov<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Lorraine Glennon <\/strong><em>is a writer and editor based in Brooklyn. She writes on health, politics, books, personal finance, art and architecture for online and print publications.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/about-us\/the-skin-cancer-foundation-journal\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-4755 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.skincancer.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/featured-in-journal-2020.jpg\" alt=\"Featured in The Skin Cancer Foundation Journal 2020\" width=\"455\" height=\"79\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What happens when a dermatologist learns she has a rare and dangerous melanoma? 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